Sai Stone, street photographer, author, and Co-Founder of 503TV

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Welcome to the Doran city syndicate spotlight Show. I'm your host, Lauren city podcast guy in this episode by Guy sidestone, a visionary artists and a cultural advocate, who will share his journey as a creative force, highlighting his contributions to the arts and his dedication to preserving cultural heritage. We'll dive into his artistic process, inspiration mind his work, and the impact it has creativity, inspiration and community whether you're an artist or a culture enthusiast for curious about the transformative power of art sighs story will leave you inspired and motivated to explore your own creative potential. It's more than just a podcast it's an opportunity to gain insights to be inspired. And join the conversation today. Don't want to say the podcast guy let's go

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in with always tight man and get people in here that you grew up with, you know, I've seen seen the journey man, you know, he's really tight man. So yeah, we'll get into it. It sir. Welcome to the thorn city syndicate spotlight show where we network and build connections through interviews and discussions. This episode is brought to you by GMP podcast group. I'm your hosts Thorin city podcast guy. Make sure you visit Thorn city syndicate.com Hit the LIKE, SHARE and SUBSCRIBE button to be the first to know about new releases, bonus episodes and exciting updates. Today I got a really special guest in the spotlight. margai Siddiqui stone we go way, way, way back. What's up, man, my brother, I appreciate you coming through. I appreciate you having me, bro. Man. So you know today we just don't We don't explore your journey. You know, from where you began to how you got in this chair with me. And like I said, we go way back shit home. Probably like middle school elementary school, probably. Yeah. Yeah.

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I just turned 42 yesterday. Did you Okay, yeah. Yeah. Jackie Robinson, uh, you know,

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Grace. So yeah, we go, we got the book. Oh, he posted some one day posit his book, I say me, and that's all tight, man. I'm gonna get my guy up here, man and show him some love and

highlight. What are you doing? Because I know he's been doing stuff for years around the town,

highlight. What are you doing? Because I know he's been doing stuff for years around the town, highlighting other people. So it's only right that, you know, give you a highlight.

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I appreciate you, brother. You're right. You did I posted that, huh? It ain't like I go back and refresh every two seconds.

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You, you came through with the opportunity to come on your podcast immediately and really appreciate that. In fact, I was hoping to give you your flowers before we start talking about me. I'll take

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you and third twin. Our biggest racism, I really

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I would say,

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show me a blueprint to independent hustle for music to fail using the New York Hip Hop Film Festival. What was that? Like? Doesn't it? Yeah, did that. Yeah, it was. I did that. And I was watching that. And I was inspired by that. And that's, that's part of the reason I'm here today. But also cake being briga third twin, AKA a little Roy, without just giving him his flowers as well, because I don't know if you aware. But a little Roy got the hardest Hip Hop bar in the history of hip hop bars. I would agree. You want me to tell you what it was one. And I might not be able to say a word for words and Oh, kill me little Roy Brous city guy here with a full five and walked it off like a curtain in

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the Yeah, after that honesty, man. That's how it all started for me a full five though, man. Yeah. Oh, boy. They don't make a like they

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salute to you. I appreciate y'all. I just wanted to share that real quick. Because this means something being here means something to me. And that's what it's all about me. And that's why I started it. You know, me, I've always been a quiet person. And behind the scenes, I like to

do more work behind the scenes. But it became a point where it was time for me to, you know, get out in front of the camera behind the mic and share my story a little bit. Because I know I can help people. And so that's that's always been like to do as I like to help people. So that's how I got into it. And that's what I like to do.

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Crazy to hear you say that man that resonated with me, you know, through we'll get into this 503 TV productions 503 tv.com I miss share that other people work for over 10 years. Yep. I appreciate you sharing. I still have it so unintentionally. I took a back seat in my old shit.

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Because I wasn't always ready to get in front of the cameras. So this is certainly me getting out of my comfort zone. Yeah. Yep. So tell me a little bit about your upbringing around here in the town and what influenced you to get into the street photography. Born and raised in Portland, born on the hill. I would too humble to Jefferson. It's gonna get to Willamette University.

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And what got me into photography, street photography was, you know, I've been nibbling and dabbling for a long time now I started out mainly doing video, which is hilarious because I didn't know nothing about video. Me and my brokerage shout out to Chris J. Lee. We picked up to Sony Handycam standard definition, it just started popping out before.

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You know what, eventually people start dating those areas, though. And so we started taking ourselves more serious. And that was a journey. And I found personally that I connect with photography more to video, I still do both. But, you know, there was something about going to a club for four hours to make a two minute video that just wasn't that enough.

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So I'm more drawn towards photography. I think Chris, when he may say the same, he's good at both. But that was kind of my journey here is that I realized that

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being in the studio doing those that type of photography is probably not my my strongest point I like to be out I like to document life. And that brought me to this book and these photos. Nice. So was there any specific neighborhoods or communities in Portland that played a significant role in your life? Absolutely. I was born and raised on that in that green house on Kirby and Skidmore. Salute to, to my family to my community.

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Through growing up there are very close to the park. I'm very close to what is now the self enhancement Center, which I consider myself a lifetime member. And you know, now that I mentioned them, I want to give them a quick shout out because before SE I got an SDI a second grade before that my mom barely let me lead a house. She was worried she was all those be to the streets. Dr. Bhatt deprive the other arm so that I can learn about life so salute to them. But I would say that's my area. Northeast Portland.

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Nice. So how does it

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any other neighborhoods or does it inspire inspire you to do any

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photography stuff? I wouldn't say any particular area inspires me. But there is a lot of beauty in in our hometown in our home state. And it's just it's endless, you know, from nature to you know, the streetscapes? I think that there's a lot of beauty that can be found here. And I've always appreciated that we have all four seasons, I think that makes for a very photography. Yep. So any specific themes you find yourself drawn to?

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I like suiting people, and I like shooting outdoors in in

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natural lighting. I like

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as much as possible. I like candidates, I like to dish shoot people live in life.

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But in this case, it's a good example of you know, some candidate and some that folks pose for

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key, you'll say, can you walk me through your creative process of capturing these moments on the streets?

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Yeah, I mean, I think if I'm, if we're talking about the book, which is photography from the George Floyd protest, that was a unique situation because it yes, a street photography, but it's a very, very heated and emotional setting. We're in the middle of a pandemic, folks are wearing masks, they're tired, frustrated, you can't really communicate as well as you want. And there's an element to this. We're Yeah, I mean, anything that happens out in public, it's okay to photograph but you know, these are some folks are vulnerable, the situations and so for me, I asked permission, you know, and to be honest, my best shots Otherwise, no one will ever see, because I was told no. And the way you continue to do this work is to walk away with the same smile you approach them with, and just respect their privacy. Yeah. Yeah, I was gonna I was gonna be my next question was, how do you navigate that, that balance between capturing authentic moments and, you know, respecting people's privacy? Yeah. Like I said, it can be tough, you know, but uh, I came up in the clubs with 503 TV productions, we filmed a lot of club scenes. And so, you know, my job is to record these beautiful women dancing today favorite song, and they put it in there as it was somebody they weren't supposed to be there. So.

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So it took a little skill, you know, you learn to come correct verbally. And more importantly, like I said, Before, I learned to take no for an answer. But because of that, I'm comfortable approaching strangers in public, and usually I will recede. Well, nice. Nice. So when you've when you focus on trying to capture these raw emotions and your photographs, how does that work?

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Has a good question. Again, I keep going back to the book because it's obviously so fresh in my mind, but not only was I photographer but I was a participant, right? And so, you me may have just got

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I did walk it side by side for two lots Chantel in that one particular moment, I'm inspired. So I pull out the camera and shoot that shot. And I think because I was a participant, and not just an observer, there was a level of trust there. But again, no, there was there was there was plenty of people who prefer not to be photographed. Yeah. People just want to be, they just want to be there. Just, you know, doing my thing. And I think, let's be honest, you can't you don't always have control of your image once it's out there. Yes, it's out there. You know, this isn't politically charged situation. You know, that might have been your daughter's principal out there writing

for the cause, but no want to get in trouble for writing for the column A is so I respect that as well. Yeah, they still need the job. People still want to work. They also want to report the movement support the movement.

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So yeah, it was crazy. Man, those times I was seeing I would drive guys drive him to see was I doing like Uber back then. Now, I think I was still doing DoorDash. But I would drive and I would see protests out and I'm like, these people this crazy out here, people everywhere. And

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I'm like, I'm going out there. I respect people for you know, being on the front line, somebody's got to do it.

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But I just couldn't do it. And you know, I felt the same way.

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Because of the pandemic. And also I was just frustrated. I mean, I've been marching since I was a kid. And I just didn't have a lot of faith in in change.

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But,

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you know, again, me, I've been locked in the house during this pandemic, shrinking more than I need to be drinking, watching the news. And all I'm seeing are scuffles and, you know, fires and dumpsters and counter protesters where the protesters and I'm like, Damn, it's a lot of people that don't look like me fighting for me. And I started to feel like a sucker. So I got up and I went down there. And I met up with Chris and Angelina, they were taking photos. I didn't even bring a camera in the first day. I was down there for the web.

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Ad I didn't have my whole history. And I was just frustrated. And but when I got down there, it wasn't that. Yeah, it was love. It was. It was deep. It was

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so much so that I said, Okay, I'm coming back. I came back the next day by myself, and got to it. And there's like a 12 hour day, you know, because I wanted to share with folks and they say if you watch the news you miss them for Yeah, absolutely for him and I agree. And so I just wanted to show folks what I saw that I didn't want to show you that the good that people were doing out there. You know, it was good and bad people out there but they're gonna definitely show you to what the bad's going on. Absolutely. And they you know, they use the pandemic to keep us scared wants to go to a super spreader a few years ago. Well

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my wife wasn't happy that was out. I was out there. That's why I need this to sail I go to bed only.

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Yeah, definitely have many spokes man, I wouldn't go on. No.

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I guess this welcome back to these words. Well, like Welcome back words.

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We've talked about it here. Yes, sir. Welcome back to the Thor city syndicate spotlight Show. I'm your host Thor city podcast guy. I got my guy sigh in the building. Yes, sir. Man. Yeah. So what was you going to ask me? Man, what was I going to ask you before we came? There? I'll use the app and it was live and I edit it and being Yeah, y'all my questions be having questions. I'm more hidden behind the scenes than I am promoting my book. Yeah, by the way, they have a very, very beautiful setup here. I encourage folks to reach out and tap you, sir. But yeah, I was just curious. I know we're not live. You run your ads. We've been taking our breaks and I was just kind of curious if it was you who actually takes this and goes and edits the video. Yeah, yep. Well, he's back there. Doing he's really editing live.

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because we got the camera setup where he's switching been slowly things Yeah, he's switching the angles on so he's really editing live and then I'll I'll do some drops, pose and post production drops into little we talked about after we get done I'll send you

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I'll send you a message asking you to send me any you know if you got any filters you need pictures of anything we talked about on the show and then I'll put it in there. And like I said, I'll go in and I'll replace some ads in there. So yes, it's a little bit of work yeah, we did a lot of people don't know they think you just get up here and talking. And that's what it is. So no, I have erred quit this should be easy. Now I didn't quit but I'm too far in the Quit near you know, saying I can I can see the finish line. You know, I ain't there. But I can see it. I can see it over there. And I gotta get there. So I get there. They got to kill me to get me out of here.

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him and I started back into C: 2014

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I personally wanted some third twin music. Because I've been hearing everybody's music and I hadn't I had no new third. So I said I'm gonna pay for my own album. Third, let's get into studio book some studio time we're gonna go in we're gonna record some songs. And that's what we did, man. We recorded some songs we start we start traveling, we did some shows. And as we going, I'm like, Man, this

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really helped my boy out and so you know, give him something else. Back to as far as love

really helped my boy out and so you know, give him something else. Back to as far as love Yeah, he's loving these pills and alcohol and that you get them nowhere, man. He was fucked up around here.

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But what look at him now though. Got them now. Let's fast forward. Yeah, look at my boy now. You know he'll am now sometimes you got to go through it to get to go into it. Fortunately, some of these young hyenas is only gonna listen to somebody with them scars, you know, talking about the he can reach them in a way to Sid Keystone King, the elbow. So I respect what he doing for poi Z and what he doing for our community. Jay out to you. So yeah, he came along way man, we did that honestly, video. So I met my business partner, Justin. And he did a video.

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He wrote the script.

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We connected with some guys and I helped us put it all together. We got a budget together and it really did it on a big level. Hired a big crew. Most of the crew members worked on Grimm. Oh, yeah, I'm a grip fan. Or yeah, I'm a nerd. I'll say it on the podcast. They never picked me up as an extra though.

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So yeah, man, we did that. And then shortly after that video was when he went got clean man, he kind of disappeared. And he hit me up a couple months later, he's like, yeah, man, I wouldn't got clean. And so

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shout out to third man. That's what I did it for man. I wanted to get on and get a record deal. But I just wanted my best friend back, really. So that's why I did it. A lot of times, man you gotta have it's funny. I posted a video today where I tried to give people my why? Because I've been posted ads. I mean, my book. First of all, you didn't tell us?

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What is it about that you get why? So I tried to tell that. And a lot of times you need something more. It can't just be like, Oh, I had an art class. And I love photography. Because what's lifestart life and you gotta have something, something else that I help you get through

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your why? And so a lot of people struggle with is their y.

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So if you don't know your y, and you don't really know why you're doing it, you know? So yeah, gotta know your y but

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your book, tell me about your book, share me, share with me some of your experiences and insights that went into documenting the George Ford protests.

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So, like I mentioned, it was a kind of a spontaneous decision to actually leave my bubble.

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I step out into those streets. But I didn't do it with the intention on publishing the book. You know, at the time, like I said,

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the first day I went out, I wasn't shooting and I saw that my experience wasn't what I was seeing on TV. And I was like, dang, everybody else probably believe the same. She's popping off down here. And I just wanted to share it and I did through social media.

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About a year later. I considered putting it together as a book. But if I'm being 100

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I backed out because I was I I'm always giving myself excuses not to do anything. Unfortunately for most but my reason at the time was that I was afraid people would think I was exploiting the tragic loss of George Floyd.

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No other media behind it, and just jumping on that train to sell something. And so I waited and waited.

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And now it's here and I couldn't be happier. And so relieved. And that lasted for about 10 minutes before I realized that I'm also the person that gotta hustle this

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market this is, but I'm here for I'm here for it. Yeah. So what are some of the challenges you faced while

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documenting the process? How do you navigate them?

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t it often. But like, back in: 2007

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To be handcuffed on your stomach, getting Molly whopped. Why they screaming stop resisting you like bro, if you kick me one more time, I'm gonna stop exists. I resist this shit.

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In a way, that wasn't. That was a tough situation for me. You know, they hit me with charges that I had to fight them all. And I did. I didn't take no deals. And I beat that. And I went to a pseudo assume in civil court. But because I was alleging a civil rights violation, they bumped it up the federal court. And from my experience, the biggest difference was so the Multnomah County would have been all white, but at least they got some black name. Yeah. Now we call for the state of Oregon. Yeah. But even after we kick people off the jury, I still had a copy of that on there. That's how many people that work for me now. And I knew it. And that was a tough situation. And you know, and I, you know, I battled depression, you know, I'm saying, it really took me off my pivot for a short time. And it took a while before I could walk out walk around with my chest out my chin up. And

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and that's where I'm at today. And I know that brother, I'm glad you made it through man. That's crazy.

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them. So I left for you in the house. Great.

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So yeah, you had a different you really had a different perspective for going out there and want to be down for the cause. I did because I felt like they was fighting for me.

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Yeah, why am I out there fighting for me. And you could have been Joyce for it. You could have been George Floyd 100%. I remember when I made the decision to let them handcuff me so I can make it home because I was ready to go. And these little dudes, you know, I'm saying and, and you're really testing my manhood anyway, bro.

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A blast right now. I'm in a better place, believe it or not in a knot. I use that. I use that to fuel me. You know, I'm saying and, and I hope it comes through in my work. Yeah, keep fighting your fight, man. Yep. So I've been noticed any specific reactions or responses to your photographs from the community? Um, that stuff he was putting out during the protests. Yeah. One of the most common, not even so much feedback. But questions I get is why the white boys like why?

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Implicit bias?

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Is the answer that part of it was the way I wanted to have my wording I had that figured out before I even had an image. So it had to be a certain shape.

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And

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to be honest, with all

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this was more reflective of what I saw what you saw, that's what was out there. And so that's what what I'm put on the cover. And if you look at these two dudes eyes, this is not them posting. This one is candid, I ran and got in front of them. And they just just they got just fired. I was like, Damn there. And I had to jog heat off. And that's the big about street photography that he talked about. You don't see. You'll want to see my steps. Yeah.

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But that's the most common feedback I've gotten other than that. It's been positive. I have been x I went with 24 pages I have been asked why not more? I definitely have more and to answer that if you're like me, you love those photo books. If you go to somebody's house and they got one you grab it, but if you like me, you flip through the Abyss like a deck of cards. Because sometimes it's just too much no matter how beautiful the imagery for me I get discombobulated. It's just too much. So I tried to make it a little bit more concise. Gotcha.

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So in what ways do you think street photography differs from other forms of visual storytelling?

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That's a good question. Hopefully I didn't say that's a good question. 20 times Mm

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hmm. You know, I've been doing this for a very long time, as I've mentioned, and I'm just now really starting to, to kind of learn about the I don't want to call them labels but you know, photojournalism street photography, those are things I ever did but didn't think about Yeah, until I published a book I had to Scattegories doing what you wanted to do. Yeah, so it's not real easy for me to answer that but what I can tell you about why street photography resonate with me is just because I feel like I'm that I share a lot on social media. I share my family I'm into fitness.

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I like to share you know, it's so through photography, I get to show you what I saw instead of telling you because you don't believe me if you didn't if I tell you Yeah, and that's kind of a very kind of basic way of explaining it. So the photography and video

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there's some you went to school for it, you just just picked it up and just start doing it. I went to the School of YouTube tutorial there we go.

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Now Oh, no, no, shout out to Harriet Tubman. I definitely took video production there but at my big age, we was doing analog VHS tape I wouldn't even digital and so the digital year well I just had to get it how I live and you know I was really bad at first in but I just get you know I became a student here and I started staying up

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you know I'm saying One thing's for show you go ahead your video back probably the next day you know cuz I've just wired like that and that's not necessarily always good but

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no, I didn't have any any formal training for the most part it's just been trial and error Yeah. Hey man I saw jumped into the business and

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it's working out sometimes you just gotta get in and

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what wholesale and it just got to keep showing up after a little guy just got to keep showing suit and he's not out to wrestle keep showing up man and then people will start respecting you and respecting your work and and really see what you're doing when they see you putting in the work and if you out there and I noticed sell real cliche but if you feel like that trust me I have I have a love hate relationship with this craft because I don't feel like it's always love me back. I don't feel like this city is always loving that

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so I get it but if it's something that you're passionate about it doesn't always have to be a business venture just keep shooting a handgun pictures could do a video until maybe one day

you are inspired to put them together. That's it man. You got any

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any memorable experiences or counters you had well out there on during the protests?

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And let me think of

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work history. They are

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so goofy, this is such a serious anything they get I will say to both goofy things. It was

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it was these white girls out there. And they had signs that said what they say if you take

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if you take BBC back shots, this is your fight to

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it was up there. And I go I shot up the crotch he got photographs so that I know they're not in the book.

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But my $70 so I can post them in on the video apps. Your heart Yeah, I'm gonna need a picture. I just made sure that you created that hobby. Yeah.

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That just stood out to me because sometimes in the middle of something that's very serious, being able to crack a smile, being able to last laugh I'm sorry, is key.

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The backside sign is you out there salute to you. That's funny. And we don't take one more break man. We got one more message from thorn city syndicate. And we come back. We're gonna touch on your efforts in building, building a community of man and creating change.

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And, and we're gonna get into the Bible through TV. Let's do it.

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I guess this welcome back to these words. So I'm accom well, like Welcome back words to shares

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Air man Welcome back. Welcome back man. Thorn city syndicate spotlight Show. I'm your host

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Dorsey the podcast guy. My guy site in the building that was a I was a little clip from third's wind call Welcome back as on the unreleased full length album, we did drop an EP for songs. But I got a whole full album that I've been holding on to. And we got a documentary. I was I was good. I was catching footage of everything. Let me find out. You got a release there, Twitter here. I just saw your galette. Yep. So yeah, got a documentary we've been working on ever since the beginning of when I stop or start getting them back in the studio. So it's pretty deep man. And so I've been holding on to the album to release the album with the documentary. You know, I'm thinking about it. Me and Chris was just talking about putting together a document because I've been sharing 503 TV, so my Instagram was 503. TV side. But on the 503 TV page, I'm gonna share some old footage. So I mean, II 40 performance at the TNA and T nadie Mr. Fat

freestyle and and it's just got me feeling nostalgic. And it's like, you know what, we really sit no go looking. And so we're gonna have to put the pieces together and tell our story. Yeah, yep, you got to do that. And that's the good thing about documentary sometime the story is still unfolding. So as far as start, I mean, his story is still unfolding.

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Getting married to summer. So that's definitely something we want to get get in there.

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And, yeah, man, we got some good stuff going on. But yeah, you mentioned the 503. TV.

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TV started back in like: 2008

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ing that arctic blast back in: 2008

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And so there came a point where we were doing less of the content in regards to go out and capturing events and started to kind of create more of our own projects and try to get our creativity out to the world and, and we also have a blog on 503 tv.com where I share the work of others. I share local hip hop music just because we're dope in this city. And there's a big misconception and not only are we dope, there's such a diverse city and in the type of hip hop, whatever your bag is, you can find me. So I've been doing that for a long time. It's kind of my way of paying back the community that gave me so much because it definitely took a village to raise me there. And I wouldn't be here without that village of so I use it as a way to get back and it's been a gift and a curse because the business side has been maybe not maybe lacking. Yeah.

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Because I'm doing it out of passion and sola kobir to down to the shell.

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Well, man, you always shared our stuff to man. So we always appreciate that man. No problem. It's kind of you know, sometimes it's tough to get people to people like your stuff, but they won't share it for some reason. Yeah, it's a it's a trick harder than you would think. Yeah. But they their share a total stranger stuff before they share. Somebody didn't grow up with no for 30 years and

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can smell and I'm not complaining. But if I'm being honest, some of the most support I've gotten from this book has been from people I haven't shed blood and tears. Musk pasteurize works. Yeah. It is what it is be I love thee. So any, any anything upcoming for Bible three TV? You have a vision for it going forward?

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Yeah, you know, I would love to release a documentary. As I mentioned, I think that's going to take some time and some effort in the, in the the time being if I'm saying that phrase.

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I want to find more interesting ways to share my work. And one thing that I'm doing I should mention is that on February 24, I'll be having a signing party at half a United at Old Town owned by my brother Roderick and my brother, just a black hole.

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Come out and support have a good time. Thank you to max Smith. This is going to be presented by him. He reached out the day you reached out I would love and ask him how can I help now

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So y'all please, please come out. It's family friendly. And we just want to build it. There's no agenda. We'll have some music and just you there, man. That's tight. Where's it located at? Cafe United is all good question. It's all queued first and coach. I should have the exact address but please, please do Google it. But it's writing right? No town. Oh, coach. I'll be sure to look it up. And I'll put it up on the on the screen. We talked about it appreciate because I met those brothers to get to the brothers. I went in there and they got a nice little little spot man and he goes lives I see the secret rule. I did see decisions always one on one it also you have the

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set out to my bro did I was talking man. Well, man, man, man, I so appreciate you coming through. Man. I appreciate seeing what you're doing out here. Like I said, it's always nice to see people you grow up what you grew up with and see their journey to where they've come from, to what they doing and what they tried to do and talking to help. I like to help you know I was there. So we locked in now. So Joel's called Doran city syndicate spotlight show. It's all about the power of networking, forming strategic alliances. And so that's why I started to show him and so it's so what are we going to do? Going forward? And paying it forward? Is when you drop it interview. That doesn't include me? I'm not going to share that last three to every time. Yes, sir. I don't that

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you got any.

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Any final words of encouragement for the listeners as they embark on their own journey? And how can I connect with you? You can connect with me? Oh, 503 tv.com my socials are 503. TV sigh. Man.

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It's all sound cliche, but the best thing I could tell you is not to give up. You go. There's a reason I didn't share that I was going to release this book. And it's because I was afraid of being talked out of it. unintentionally. I'm not saying people have bad intentions, but that happens. So I

think you have to have a sizable belief in yourself and be ready to and willing to put it all on the line.

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If you're really serious about this, yeah, yep, definitely got to stay down and man and keep grinding. I stayed out till you come up and just keep showing up, like Jose to the night on the Grammys and keep showing up. And so one thing I've done I know is I keep showing up in Word 100% of showing up and putting the work man it all pay off.

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But yeah, I like to say I'm encouraging my listeners to explore their passions, embrace innovation and pursue entrepreneurship in your own unique ways. Thanks for joining us explore the power of networking and find inspiration by following me at the Warren city podcast guy for updates exclusive behind the scenes content and to join the conversation today. Stay tuned for upcoming episodes of the thorn city syndicate spotlight show as we continue to highlight individuals businesses brands and podcasters No forget to subscribe the Warren city podcast Guy YouTube channel follow at Thorn city syndicate the management company net GMP podcast group to production company as well. And be sure to drop by WWW dot thorns city syndicate.com Schedule your free strategy session

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door city podcast guy. I like to boy holla

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Thank you brother sir. Yes sir. Yes sir.

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Welcome, man.

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I appreciate y'all tuning in to another episode of the coin Citizen Spotlight show where we network and build connections, interviews and discussions. Till next time, I'll let you boy boy said the podcast guy.

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