Bounce by Brian: Elevating Your Basketball Game

thorncity spotlight show Ep.10

,: 2023

SUMMARY KEYWORDS

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SPEAKERS

Brian McGill, Naeem Hall

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Brian McGill: 00:00

It is thanks a lot the information value just obviously good times for us probably even sitting

down and having a conversation.

Naeem Hall: 00:05

Yeah, yep. So how are we looking back there, brother? You good to go. Alright, so yes, just like I

said, it's a 30 minute show. three segments. I got two breaks. Yep, yep. Okay. Yep. I

00:23

read the little outline.

Naeem Hall: 00:24

Yep, sir. All right. Yes, sir. We back at it again. Welcome to the thorn city syndicate spotlight show where we network and build connections through interviews and discussions. This episode is brought to you by GMP podcast group. I'm your host Doran city podcast guy. Make sure you visit Doron city syndicate.com Hit the LIKE SHARE SUBSCRIBE button be the first to know about new releases bonus episodes and exciting updates. Today, I got a special guest in the spotlight. Brian McGill. How are we doing?

00:55

I'm doing amazing. I appreciate you having me. I'm looking forward to it, man.

Naeem Hall: 00:58

Yeah, man. Thanks for coming, man. So today we're gonna get into absolutely a little bit of Brian's journey to becoming a basketball trainer. We're going to talk about bounce by Brian. We'll get into some of his clients and some of his training techniques. Brian, we're absolutely from around here.

01:16

from Clackamas High School in: 2011

Naeem Hall: 04:38

Nice. Yeah. So I talked about a little bit on my show, but I'm not probably not a lot of people know that I've been refereeing basketball for been doing the high school basketball for the last 14 years. They don't know they don't know I've talked about it sparingly a little bit here and there but yeah, much. But me and Brian we met the met up again this summer at the Portland program. And that's one times Brian Absolutely. Hey, coaches for Team Pritchard.

05:04

Yeah, we got to tell the people about this in a second. Yeah. Now

Naeem Hall: 05:07

tell me a little bit about your experience at the point, man.

05:11

So I saw the podcast first of all, and I was like, man, there's zero chance I'm not doing this podcast because this is my boy. I appreciate you so much. And for the people that that don't know that you Raph, you do a hell of a job. I think you put your ego to the side which for some people, they they view that a little bit demeaning or almost like you're a masculine yourself in a certain sentence, but you like to be able to take the abuse going on in those games is absolutely unbelievable. And those are the two things man like I really wanted to come on and just give you a thank you for doing that. First of all, if you will, thank you for dealing with me. With that team in particular, like you know, the vibes man, I'm not there to coach like, I'm gonna draw on a plays I'm not getting on guys asked. It's like, that's kind of how I feel about it, too. Like you're, you're playing real basketball, you're away from your family. 10 months when you show up to this program, I'm not going to coach effort from you like you're a pro, you're here to have fun compete. It is what it is. I'll give you a little push in assistance. But a man What else do I have to do is basically celebrate, have fun, and then just complain to the rest, or seven. So I appreciate you for that man. in all sincerity, I'll take this back next time I see you on the basketball floor. But I think you guys did an unbelievable job. I think you do an unbelievable job managing the personalities. I think especially for the programs if you don't read them the right way and you don't kind of understand and appreciate who the guys are in the game. It can turn into not the best. It doesn't create the best product both for the players and for people watching. So I just wanted to I appreciate you doing that. I love you I support you I apologize for like I tell you I calm down at halftime comm that you guys don't apologize in the church. And after the game I apologize. I thought I was gonna have that second half there. But you guys me I

Naeem Hall: 07:09

love the best absolutely stuff. It's it's part of the game and that's something I learned that as a fisherman you can't take any of that stuff personal. I just came in. Go ahead.

: 07:18

Oh, go ahead. Go ahead. I was gonna be honest. I left a third grade basketball when I was in high school third and fourth grade like so many hoops or something like that. They call him in and I I was like you know what, I'm never gonna complain to Earth. I was still playing with this. I'm never complaining again. Couldn't do it that I got fouled the next game I played it and I was but man I retired from referee because I personally cannot handle the smoke or the pressure with the third and fourth graders and their parents. So a How the hell am I gonna sit here and say a damn word about anywhere

Naeem Hall: 07:46

that third and fourth grade level. That's probably some of the toughest is because they don't know what they're doing. You want to teach them at the same time. And then you got these crazy parents on the sideline who really think their kids in the NBA already. And so 100% Man stuff but you definitely got to have thick skin to be a referee especially to officiate at a high level I've managed to make it to a high level on the high school platform at least. Yeah, well asked me if I'm gonna do college I think I'm gonna stick with high school because I'm it's a long journey on the road to college. And I'd rather be at the top of the food chain in high school instead of the bottom of the food chain in college trying to work my way you know? 100% But yeah, man, all that stuff awareness game. I love it. I go home, I get done wrapping the game and I'll go home and watch a game and I'm yelling at the refs on TV. Good to hear man. That's good stuff, man. So tell me what inspired you to create the bounce by Brian program and what sets it apart? So for any programs?

08:43

Absolutely. So really the the name for my business or for for me as a trainer, the social media handles website merch all that. I was training some kids that I coached the Clackamas high school the time, they could maybe barely duck putting in the rim grazers. And then a lot of things went into it, like we're lifting weights, we're getting better. I'm a great trainer. So I'm helping them jump higher the same time they're going through puberty, so they're getting stronger and more. A lot of this stuff is gonna happen itself and that's my vibe with the training to like I'm very realistic or humble, I guess you could say about the impact that I have on people and on their careers. I actually probably think I have more impact on the individual just as a person than I do specifically on their ability to like move differently in a basketball court, which is something I take a lot of pride in, but no absolutely and then they started dunking was just having little dunk sessions and they started saying bounced by Brian because in their mind they had bounced and it was from Brian or by Brian. Well that I love. I kicked them 20 bucks each I'm like hey, I'm gonna do this name. Once we hit seven figures on make sure you get Lucky's taken care of. But until then, I appreciate it. So I gotta give them a shout out shout out to JD and Damon to high school kids. I used to coach them It was real just kind of sticky to the tongue with the alliteration of the BBB. From there another guy that he was shout out to Alex Hartman. He went to Concordia. He's actually the Portland guy, Central Catholic and Concordia you would recognize him if you saw heart man. But he's done a lot of unbelievable things. He has a creative branding agency and he's done a lot of stuff with like he designs Adidas Black History Month stuff. He just got a job with ABC Studios this and stuff for Dame like with some of

dame's Adidas stuff, and some of his little stunts like with the WWE bicycle in the tunnel, motor center. And then he designed a logo, which is on my social media and stuff like that. They did really well made some merch that kind of just got the word out. And I think just the stickiness of the name is really kind of extended apart and the fact that all Hooper's want to have bounce, obviously. And as far as what sets it apart, I think a lot of things. I've been relentlessly kind of working on my body and athletic systems since I was in eighth grade, alongside, coincidentally, some people who ended up becoming some of the best coaches and trainers in the world, in my opinion, at least for the sport of basketball. When I got to college, same thing up in my own science experiment, I was in the street, I was in the weight room all the time with my strength coach, back there, back then just talking shop, trying new things that he did an undergrad I've taken a couple of guys, I'm in the middle of a Master's course right now and exercise science as well. Most of that's just opened doors as far as jobs go one day, hopefully in the league. And then a Yeah, that would probably be the thing that sets it apart is just the amount of work and effort I put into attain that knowledge. And then the unique lens that I can use to apply it to the game as a former player and someone that's walked that walk. And then also just kind of the effort and thought that I put into each client and each person that I train with, especially when you get to someone like when you're when you're a younger athlete or less trained athlete, as far as experience, it's pretty easy to make guys stronger and more athletic and do a do a lot of good things in the weight room, when they get to a higher level where they've kind of maxed out their body or if they've done a lot of these requests for years and years. And their goals have changed through their the point their career changes, what they need in the weight room becomes completely different. Like for example, a high school kid shot in basketball, Brian is going to be doing a lot of plyometrics a lot of jumping drills, stuff like that. But Mike James, who we both know, obviously from Portland and playing in that program, probably complains more than I do. So yeah. That's a guy that that probably doesn't want to do a whole bunch of jumping stuff when he shows up after an eight month season, just fresh off of playing in this house. A lot of that stuff's going to be way more low impact, it's gonna be kind of tailored to his mobility limitations and some of the stuff you just need with his body a senator. So the real answer is just that it's never ending. And that's what sets it apart. There's not, we don't just package something like hey, this is the best come grab. This is tailored to you. And it's constantly growing and evolving.

Naeem Hall: 13:01

Nice. So you have any advice for any aspiring aspiring basketball players looking to improve

their performance, take their game to the next level?

13:09

Man 100 Yeah, I would start by controlling the stuff you can control, try to cut out sugar. If that's not realistic for you try to cut out drinking sugar. If you have been like three sodas a day and four bags of candy, that doesn't mean you get seven bags of candy because to get the soda to start with the little things, what you put into your body, how you take care of your body. Sleep is by far the best performance enhancer that exists in the world better than any drug you can buy. There's a direct correlation between athletes, the more you sleep, the less statistically those athletes get injured. It also helps you to your hormones for stuff like testosterone, which can help your ligaments muscles, joints, as well as ton of systems in the bodies can make you more athletic. And then from there, man, I would just as for if you want to

get more athletic for basketball problems probably gets stronger. That's a pretty easy one. For a lot of people, I would include some form of jump training or sprint training. So making sure you're hopping and jumping as high as you can all the time. Not literally all the time, but a few times a week, then I think the biggest thing that's missed is if you want it to translate to your game, you have to put that into your work on the court. So we're working on your first step and you're not in the gym going off like a heavy trying to explode out and be as aggressive as you can and powerful as you can and change the way that your body moves on the court. As far as your attention to it while you're working on it. It's probably not going to transfer a slice all the time in basketball guys talked about wanting to play lower being the lowest man wins a lot of my frozen stuff like that want to work on their mobility so they can play lower to the ground. But I think the the missing thing with that is you really have to go put it into your game on the court. If you don't practice the way you want to play you're not going to be able to play that way even when your physical ability to do that changes if that makes sense. Yeah. Same Yeah, yeah.

Naeem Hall: 15:00

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Naeem Hall: 16:15

Yes, sir. Welcome back. That was fire. All right. Oh, man. Well, yeah. Welcome back to the source city syndicate spotlight Show. I'm your host, Doran city podcast guy. I got my guy Brian in the building. So yeah, Brian. Awesome. That's a little tune from artists. I've managed. My best friend, third twin. It's an unreleased project we got coming up. It's kind of it's kind of what led me into into the podcasting world. I was managing my friend. His rap, he rapped growing up. And yeah, he stopped rapping and I want him to rap again. So I'll pay for he was struggling with substance abuse. And so I started doing the music to help him get his give him something else to live for, besides all the drugs and alcohol he was doing. And so man, it was real. Yeah, he's six years clean. Now. We put out an EP project. I got the full length, I'm saving because I got a documentary I'm working on from the, from the journey. When I started, I was documenting everything. And then I met my my business partner, who's back there in the control room. We did that video for him. And we put it into some festivals. And we won a few

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I love it. And then just to your point, speaking about your friend, I think that's what a lot of people a lot of people see my job and just think it's cool that I get to kick it in the workout setting with NBA players and stuff like that, but uh, just the relationships that you build with the guys you're with, because I worked, especially in the past with a lot more younger guys. And not everyone has it figured out in some millionaire. And just stuff like that, given opportunities to provide a platform to help your friend get clean from something or to change their life or take a different direction. That is what makes me love this job so much. And that's why I gravitated towards it. That's why I just relate to that a ton. I appreciate who you are and how you move with that because that's just to understand why I love my job and I'm so happy all the time. That's the shift that it's about to me.

Naeem Hall: 18:49

Yes. Is that about man creating change? Yep, that was it, man. So it worked out man. I'm proud of my guy man. He did a full 360 Man days don't go Yeah, community now. You can borrow my house. He's engaged to be married. He got his license back man. He really got his life back. Sure.

19:04

He's ahead of me. I'm still getting ready to propose and I don't even know.

Naeem Hall: 19:09

So yeah, man, how did you how'd you first connect with Peyton let me share a little story of when I first seen Peyton first St. Pierre, Team fast. He was in the sixth grade. And he was on the eighth grade team. And I was reading his game and they were down I don't know how much they were down but they were down pretty big. And then this little kid he just started going to work man I said who is this kid man he said it's pretty picture of me. He's only been six great I'll say what? And he came back and they won that game and so I've been I was telling people ever since then, man the Washington's kid Payton Pritchard man in the sixth grade. He's he's gonna be nice. And so he made me look like a prophet.

19:49

Yes, yeah. No, that's that sounds about Redman like everyone that saw him play at a young

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then with the NBA guys too, like a lot of times if you're getting paid a little bit more by that team they have a little bit more incentive to play Believe it or not, like the politics continue to get trickier and trickier the More money's involved contrary to what people believe so yeah, hopefully he's gonna have an opportunity to get a lot of minutes I think he will this season and I'm very confident that he's gonna surprise a lot of people man. I think one of the unique things about him is one more story and I'll shut up but he he asked me in the car this past summer segment like once you know you were like you were done hoping or like once you know you had you like it was time to tend to hang it up and I'm like shit, like, tell him about my experience with that and just kind of how it slowly happened. I realized, like, I'm not in love with it anymore. And he's like, man, like, I never really had. And I articulated that I was like, I'm probably not gonna make millions like, I'm probably not a yearly guy, probably not a Euro Cup guy. Maybe at the very end if everything goes right for me in my career, but otherwise, I'm not making that much money. So if I'm not going to be at the top of the top, I'm gonna move on to something I can put my entire self into. He's like, Man, I never really felt that like I never really thought about that. And he's just kind of how he was raised and his pops his pops never put like a cap on his potential. It was never like, oh, like, I wonder if we can get you there's never any ceiling for him that he's acknowledged mentally. So in his mind, he's not out here trying to get him in in Serbia. 10 year NBA veteran, like he's trying to be as good as he can be. And he's not going to be surprised if he's an all star one day, you know what I'm saying? Like there'll be there will be zero surprise in his mind if that happens. And just the mentality, the personality and the way that he goes about his work and approaches the game. It's just so unique and special, that it's fun to be a part of it small part of it, and I'm extremely grateful for the opportunity.

Naeem Hall: 26:18

Yeah, man, I wouldn't be surprised either, man. I can't wait till he gets a shot to actually get the

ball and run that demand full time because he can do and he can do it at the highest level.

26:29

Yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited. And he's been you gotta go check out their president has probably been booking and preseason so far

Naeem Hall: 26:36

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this syndicate live assist exists don't drink one day my history in the making from the making of this I guess this welcome back to these words. So I'm accom well right welcome back. Where's the shares?

Naeem Hall: 27:47

Yes, sir. Welcome back. We still in the spotlight, my guy Brian. So tell me about some of the

other clients you're working with.

27:57

Once I got hired full time with Peyton this past summer, I was on the road a lot more than I wanted to be. Not Want it to be this the incorrect terminology but I was with as many of the guys in Portland as I want it to be that summer, but we did get to still train quite a bit with those guys. And as far as people I've worked with from Portland. My first ever professional client so I'm the same year as Andrew Andrew so went to Benson High School and the University of Washington's played in the Portland program. Obviously, he's been in the early before. He's the closest thing to an NBA player that's not in the NBA right now. Man. I was I was at the preseason game the other night. They're playing the New York Knicks they got a guy named Ryan, Archie deaq. And now no hate. But you went to Villanova. They put them into the game and I'm just like looking at him like man, I shouldn't have stopped playing basketball. I might be out there right now too. And then I'm like, I'm like look at p like BC really better than Andrew like. But yeah, he's tough cosine cosine Drew.

Naeem Hall: 28:59

Andrew is probably Oh, my God is officiating the program.

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Strong, strong, strong. And that has nothing to do with me. With Drew, he's had some some different things going on with his body over his career that we're trying to like, just sort out, but more as far as its ability to move differently. I'm not taking credit for his strength because that boy is a grown man out there. So he was my first ever professional client and started training about two days into it. He said, Hey, Mike, James is going to be joining us in the morning if you don't mind. Like man, of course not. Of course. Then Mike came in I got to start working with him. Cameron Chapman that plays in that problem as well to his brother Khalil. And then I think once I kind of gained a little bit of trust from me, Andrew and then Mike and Cam chairman, one of the first ones just the the Northeast basketball community kind of opened their arms to me to a certain extent, which I'm unbelievably thankful for and extremely appreciative and value Every day Tyrone White plays in the program that's another guy that's been training with me for a long time. And yeah, so we started kind of having a lot of those guys because the gyms all the way out of Clackamas. So it's about a 25 minute drive for a lot of those guys. They started training in one big group sometimes it just be like German, like sometimes just drew or

sometimes it could be like Aaron Maloney who goes to Vermont now can Marcus the honus Khalil Andrew, all those guys and it just became a really good environment, I think for me and for them as well, too. Then a couple years later, Mike purchased a house on Vancouver, build his home gym and his little pool house out there. And I got the opportunity to go work with those guys and train out at Mike's house and that gym which is unbelievable. Really awesome space and the vibes are immaculate. So as far as the Portland guys I think, I don't want to start trying to name everyone because I'm gonna forget someone and if they're watching this but I yeah, I've got the opportunity to work with a lot of those people that you've read in the program when I get to coach against in the program. I've had the opportunity to work with a football players necessarily little of the players as well too. He's in Phoenix, I'm really excited about that opportunity to for him it kind of just just guys here and there. But at this point, the main ones I'm with are really those Northeast Portland guys. And then my James Andra and then and then Peyton as well too. And it's kind of it's interesting. I got my business to the point as far as just ancillary revenue streams making money in different ways stuff with online training, that I've kind of scaled back the amount of guys that I work with in person. But for me, that's just been unbelievable because you get to spend more time with them you get to spend more time thinking about them. If they asked me to go to the gym to compete or help out with a workout or anything like that when we get done lifting I don't have to tell them I got to go train someone else. I've got time in my day to invest in that and that's been over the last probably about a year and a half now that's been one of the biggest changes of mandates. I think really good for my clients as well as my career too

Naeem Hall: 32:16

nice. Yeah, that do Mike James he's good at basketball boy he's tough to officiate. You can

literally call a foul every time he dribbled the ball 100% 100% That's crazy, man.

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Yeah, yeah. Shoot. I'm trying to think who I would not want to officiate. Mike would be damn near impossible. Because yeah, he I mean, he's blown by he's blown by someone and he's getting to the cup every time and he's putting his body on you. And it's like by the letter of the rule, it might be a foul I don't know. But then at the same time, it's like like Mike you can do that every play puts you at the free throw on every single possession this game like my James 200 points 198 So no, they're unbelievable players man and Mike specifically has done shit open gyms I've never seen in my life but I've never seen the movie one time like I grew up watching in one mixtape tour St. Paul stuff like that. And he's just a created player just pressing buttons on his controller when he plays man it's insane

Naeem Hall: 33:15

Yeah, man it's insane it's crazy. I was not this past year but the year before that when him in pagan got to go at it and that oh my god, I think Payton scored 90 Some and he score like 60 Some man Yeah, it was like 92 That was 68 or something but most extreme basketball I seen in front of my eyes where you just just let them play man. Just let him play

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back some of your coaching that's why I gotta complain to the rest of the way is like that. Like no, I'm gonna send miles over here. I'm gonna be celebrating and complain to the ref. How cool shit to Sam. But now I think that game specifically like I went back a couple of months ago and watch the the Ryan slider shout out to SS visual works the YouTube documentary that

Naeem Hall: 34:00

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I'll send it to you. Awesome. And then he sent me to I asked him for if he would just send me all the content he had a few months ago from it. And so I'm gonna send all that stuff to you after the show. It's a good trip down memory lane.

Naeem Hall: 34:13

That man Yeah, that was amazing, man. I

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couldn't. That's one of my favorite basketball experiences all time.

Naeem Hall: 34:20

Yes, it's nice to see. Since I've been rapping for so long. To see the kids man grow up. Start from where to and just a kid. And it just grew up. I can't wait to see. Mookie and Jackson had Oregon this year. Do you work with Jackson at all?

34:34

Yeah, yes. Yeah. So I coached the last I coached the Clackamas high school two seasons, and then Westland high school the last two seasons. So I Coach Jackson, his junior and senior year as a varsity assistant coach and district trainer at Westland. And then I've also worked with him privately. That's a guy who asked me who I work with, and I'm just thinking about for the people because we were talking about the prime earlier. Jackson is probably the guy who spent besides paying the most time with over the last two years, Ben Gregg's and other ones He's from Clackamas high school coaches for the university Gonzaga. That's a little brother to me though I don't view him as a client. At this point like I really just seen him his family. But uh, no, I'm really excited for them, man. Especially for for Mookie Jackson. I'm gonna go to go to a couple games in Florida. They go play in Destin, Florida. But now it's gonna be it's gonna be

special man. I think they're gonna have a big year. I hope that hope that Dana chooses to just go young and let some of those young boys arrived. Yeah. And then they got they got Kwame kJ. I mean, it's it's out there too. I'm a big fan of his game as well. So look out for him.

Naeem Hall: 35:35

Yeah. So yeah, man. Actually, I'm gonna need to listen in this and come right back because gonna cut me off my time. Yeah, I just need to do to close out. So it should be the same length. Okay, okay. All right. Abraham coming right back hey, go. Oh, yeah, right on. So yeah, man. I just had one more question. Any future goals and plans for the bounce by Brian? Any projects or directions? Yeah, I did about?

36:40

Absolutely. So I'm working on an app right now. That'll be, it's gonna be a subscription app. It's basically all of my methods, all the information that I can pack into into one place, complete with workout programs, specifically, if you just want to jump higher, specific to if you want to improve your body to play at the highest level possible if you want to gain strength, etc, a bunch of different programs, a bunch of different resources. And that's going to be an app for the iPhone and Android. It's coming out probably before the new year. That's the biggest project that I've been working on. for way too long. Oh, man, it's a lot more work than I realized. Like all things usually are. But uh, that's something I'm really really excited about. That's coming out soon. And I will absolutely hit you up to repost that for me and share it when that comes out. And I appreciate that.

Naeem Hall: 37:30

Man, I appreciate you coming through man and sharing your stories and insights man working

to work in the athletes or individuals interested in your training programs get in touch with you.

37:40

Absolutely. You can email me bounced by brian@gmail.com my social media primarily I'm on Instagram the most it's bounced by Brian all one word. I do have a tic TOCs the same thing. If you're into Tik Tok, and then a shoe bounced by Brian Dodd or if you want to give it some T shirts and some merchandise. Appreciate your time for having me, man.

Naeem Hall: 38:01

Yeah, man. Thanks for coming. Man. I like to tell my people out there man I encourage listeners to explore their passions, embrace innovation and pursue your entrepreneurship in your own unique ways. Thanks for joining us. Explore the power of networking and find your inspiration by following me at Thorin city podcast guy for updates behind the scenes content and to join the conversation today. Stay tuned for upcoming episodes of the thorn city syndicate spotlight show as we continue to highlight individuals businesses, brands and podcasters don't forget to

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I appreciate you a ton man. I appreciate your time. No, it was fun.